Zeke Hausfather and Devin Rand in the Climate Brink:
Last September the Washington Post published an article about a new paper in Science by Emily Judd and colleagues. The WaPo article was detailed and nuanced, but led with the figure above, adapted from the paper.
The internet, being less prone to detail and nuance, ran with the figure, with climate skeptics calling it their “new favorite graph” and reposting it everywhere, claiming that it shows the insignificance of recent human warming relative to the Earth’s long temperature history.
The furor over the graph reached its apogee in January when Joe Rogan showed it in a podcast interview with Mel Gibson, saying that “If you believe these silly people, way before human beings had ever existed, there’s always this rise and fall. And this idea that the whole thing is based on carbon emissions from human beings is total bullshit. It’s not true. Right. We might be having an effect, but we’re having a small effect, a very small effect.”
So we decided we’d do the barest amount of actual diligence on the claim. We read the actual paper (non-paywalled version here). And, lo and behold, we found that rather than dismissing the role of CO2 on longer-term changes in the Earth’s climate, it makes one of the strongest claims yet that “CO2 is the dominant driver of Phanerozoic climate [the past 485 million years], emphasizing the importance of this greenhouse gas in shaping Earth history.” The authors even express surprise that CO2 explains so much of the apparent temperature variation, and that solar variability does not have as dominant an effect.
It turns out that the Washington Post’s graphic only shows half the picture. Here is Figure 4 of the Judd et al 2024 paper, showing both temperature (the plot the WaPo recreated) and CO2 over the past 485 million years. For most of the record the two changed in lock-step, with hotter periods almost invariably having higher CO2 concentrations and cooler periods having lower CO2 concentrations (note that CO2 serves as both a forcing – e.g. during periods of excess volcanism – and a feedback to other external forcings during the Earth’s past).
We also thought to ask the actual authors of the paper what they thought about how their work was being (mis)used in various corners of the internet.
Lead author Dr. Emily Judd replied (emphasis hers):
I’ve seen quite a bit of misinformation crop up surrounding our paper – particularly the claim that we (humans) have nothing to worry about, with respect to climate change, since the Earth has been warmer for much of the last half-billion years. I cannot stress enough how reductive and problematic this viewpoint is. The flaw in this logic boils down to two key points:
(1) the resilience of the planet does not directly translate our own species’ ability to adapt and thrive in the face of human-caused climate change, and
(2) the impact of anthropogenic climate change is (and will continue to be) determined by the rate of change (meaning how quickly CO2 and temperature change) much more than the absolute temperatures, themselves.…When we compare CO2 and temperature across the last half-billion years, we find a strong correlation between the two parameters, which indicates that CO2 has exerted a strong influence on global temperature not just today and in the recent past, but across the last 485 million years of Earth’s history.
Similarly, author Dr. Jessica Tierney told us:
Joe [Rogan] seems to be saying that because – geologically speaking – we are in a colder climate that we don’t have to worry about human-caused global warming. Nothing could be further from the truth. It certainly has been warmer that today in the deep geological past, but those past warm periods developed slowly over millions of years. As a consequence, life on Earth had time to adapt. The problem with current global warming is the speed. The warming that humans are causing is unbelievably fast, and so humans and the other forms of life that we share the planet with can’t fully adapt. In fact, rapid warmings in the geological past are often associated with mass extinctions – abrupt climate change is hard for life to tolerate. So that underlies the danger in allowing our climate to warm so fast right now.
What our study actually shows is that CO2 is the dominant control on Earth’s temperatures across geological timescales. Every time CO2 is high, temperatures are warm. So it follows naturally that, as humans emit more CO2, the climate warms. The study reinforces the strong connection between CO2 and climate change.
It’s not just how hot, but how fast
While Earth has experienced warmer periods in its deep past, the seriousness of climate change is defined by its pace. The warm temperatures in Earth’s past unfolded over millions of years, giving life ample time to evolve. In contrast, today’s changes are happening at an unprecedented rate—within decades rather than millennia—leaving inadequate time for adaptation.
The geological record offers sobering evidence of what happens when climate change occurs too rapidly: mass extinctions.
The above figure plots surface temperature (black) for the past 485 million years along with mass extinction events (orange vertical lines). The timing of two events are coincident with rapid climate fluctuations:
- The Late Ordovician mass extinction (440 million years ago) saw approximately 60% of marine species vanish.
- The Permian-Triassic extinction (251 million years ago), often called “The Great Dying,” eliminated 90% of all species during a period of dramatic climate change linked to volcanic CO₂ emissions.
This record demonstrates that climate change can have extreme consequences. Organisms don’t have time to adapt and risk extinction.
As Dr. Judd told us:
The geologic record has taught us that when CO2 and temperatures change slowly, organisms can keep pace with the environmental change – evolving, developing adaptations and/or migrating to new places. However, when CO2 and temperatures change rapidly, as is happening today due to anthropogenic emissions, evolution can’t keep pace with the environmental change. We’ve seen this before at the end of the Permian, due to widespread volcanism, and at the end of the Cretaceous, due to an asteroid impact – when the climate and the environment change rapidly, evolution simply can’t keep up.
What is happening today is particularly catastrophic because the organisms that exist evolved to tolerate the icy conditions of our modern planet – just like humans, they’re cold adapted. They (and we) are not equipped handle the warmer conditions and the rate of change is too fast for evolution to keep pace. Not only have humans evolved to tolerate colder conditions, we have also established our populations close to water sources and often near sea level. As we observe the Earth warming at a rapid pace within human time scales, we are faced with challenges such as more intense storms, more frequent and intense droughts (in some regions) and floods (in some regions), rising sea levels, and, ultimately, a reduction in habitable and arable land.
The revelations about Earth’s scorching past are further reason for concern about modern climate change, said Emily Judd, a researcher at University of Arizona and the Smithsonian specializing in ancient climates and the lead author of the study. The timeline illustrates how swift and dramatic temperature shifts were associated with many of the world’s worst moments — including a mass extinction that wiped out roughly 90 percent of all species and the asteroid strike that killed the dinosaurs.
“We know that these catastrophic events … shift the landscape of what life looks like,” Judd said. “When the environment warms that fast, animals and plants can’t keep pace with it.”
At no point in the nearly half-billion years that Judd and her colleagues analyzed did the Earth change as fast as it is changing now, she added:
“In the same way as a massive asteroid hitting the Earth, what we’re doing now is unprecedented.”





Mel Gibson: “If you believe these silly people, way before human beings had ever existed, there’s always this rise and fall.” Gibson continues: “furthermore, we have strong evidence that long before human beings had ever existed, forests could occasionally be decimated by wildfire. And so, obviously, humans can’t cause wildfires! It’s all just a liberal hoax!”
I like to point out that our planet once had a molten surface, and ask what that has to do with the climate we’ve enjoyed during the development of human civilization.
A man throws a rock in a pond. It causes a ripple. The pond has had ripples before, but the man did not cause them. He did still cause the ripple with the rock.
Should be simple to understand, but apparently isn’t.
“Joe [Rogan] seems to be saying…. Nothing could be further from the truth.”
Don’t underestimate Joe Rogan. I’m sure he could say quite a bit that’s further from the truth. He works hard at it.
The other point that keeps getting missed is that, yes, there have been times when the planet was much warmer than now. But WE weren’t there, the plants and animals that WERE there, aren’t here now. If we could be transported magically back to the last time it was much warmer than now, we would very quickly die, probably from heat stroke, possibly from being unable to find or digest anything we recognised as food, certainly Big Macs were in short supply, and equally possibly, scooped up by some reptilian/saurian raptor as a snack.
Recreating a climate in which we did not exist is a great way to ensure that we cease to exist again.
Stand in Miami or Boston or Jakarta when you’re magically transported and you’d drown before you get a chance at heat stroke.
Just another crazy attack on Climate Science, completely ignoring the vastness of the geologic time scales that different Eons existed for, compared to the extreme shortness of our industrial phase. : surely one look at the “hockey-stick” graphs shows that clearly.
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Let’s hope that strong counter action is taken now, before it’s hopelessly too late::
“What you may not know—what is just now becoming clear through leaked documents covered in the press—is that the administration is preparing to bring climate science in the United States to its knees.”
https://blog.ucs.org/erika-spanger-siegfried/dear-climate-movement-theyve-come-for-our-climate-science-we-have-to-stop-them/
Hopefuly all the rolling coal pea brains will now go buy a Tesla and save us? No? Thought not!
It’s a matter of establishing the right perspective. Half a million years is not enough, but there’s little point in going back further than about two and a half million years, when continental drift produced the present configuration and “our” climate became possible. The tectonic plates continued to push against each other, mountain ranges emerged, and – with the oceanic currents already up and running – the Earth settled into a stable state corresponding to what we now call an Ice Age. In fact, it was a dual stable state, because every 100,000 years or so the alignment of the Milankovitch cycles pushed the ice back for a while.
Everyone is familiar with the up-and-down temperature graph of “System Earth” over the last 800,000 years. From Ice Age to Interglacial and back, the level of atmospheric CO2 varied as a function of oceanic temperature; but the total amount of CO2 within the system remained constant. That is to say, atmospheric C02 was driven by planetary heat. Then we came along and started injecting new C02 into the atmosphere. That continued unabated till, by the end of the 20th century, we had brought about a fundamental change: Planetary temperature is now driven by atmospheric C02.
Therefore, by definition, nothing will ever be same again.
Why am I not seeing this horrific conclusion in print?