But if we’re doing videos, maybe we ought to watch this one (below) about clearcutting forests in Finland and Sweden. Apparently, this is being rapidly expanded to meet the growing need for “wood chips” in Germany, also known as “biomass,” also known as a form of “green power.”
I remember a time when environmentalists were vehemently opposed to clearcutting. Now, a significant number of them have no problem with this practice as long as the wood is destined to a good cause like producing green energy.
From the video caption:
Only under 5% of Finnish forests are old-growth forests. Many ecologically valuable forests lack protection and are being trashed for Finnish pulp and paper industry.
Please cite your source that making wood chips for Germany’s energiewende is ‘apparently’ driving deforestation of old growth forests in Finland. The caption doesn’t really get into what happens to the wood after logging except to say it’s for the Finnish pulp and paper industry.
Considering your source is Greenpeace may’be you’d like to comment on this foreign policy problem that the French civilian nuclear program has when dealing the source of it’s uranium in Niger (not to mention it’s need to militarily protect mines in interior North west Africa e.g. Mali and Niger and the recent military incursion in the region for that purpose
Here’s another video from Greenpeace. It’s on the trouble with French uranium mining in Niger. (If it doesn’t embed here’s the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXNc1zygo)
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXNc1zygo&w=560&h=315]
A very disturbing video on WV mountaintop removal mining—-it makes my blood boil to see how the greedy rich are willing to sacrifice other people’s homes and the future of the state for profit. It is also sad to see so many of the residents clinging to the ever-declining number of coal jobs. It is akin to cannibalism when people must “devour” their health, water, and environment for short term gain—-does no one look to the future?
RE: Cy’s “wood chips”—-more of the same, a capitalist scam hiding behind “biomass” and “green power”—-NOT a “good cause” Perhaps somewhat better than digging up and burning fossil fuels, but not an answer unless a tree is immediately planted for every one cut, and the amount of CO2 will rise anyway until the replacement plantings can grow big enough to “soak it up” And that ignores the habitat destruction and forced extinction question.
I’ve heard some of those southern, heavy WV coal counties have something like a 15 or 20 year difference in life expectancy compared to counties right on their boarder, perhaps in VA; that is to say, if you’re a miner or live near all that junk, don’t worry about saving too much for retirement, and don’t buy any green bananas…
Chris Hamilton (W Virginia Coal Assoc): “Mining is something we do here in W Virginia…[and] there’s no pretty way to mine Coal…” Uhh, MINING was pretty. I mean, it was underground, in tunnels. Granted, it had some formidable Unions to deal with, but THIS is just blowing sh8t up… like Al Qaeda.
Hamilton: “to the extent that a Mountain is removed, a little bit of a misnomer there. We’re removing Mountain TOPS” [when asked how far they go down] “well, sometimes its to the ground level, but usually…”
This would be sooo much more acceptable, if Coal weren’t on its way to the hangman, anyway. It’s like “what do you want for your last supper?” And saying “Steak and Potatoes!” is the same as “to blow up the Louvre!”
The sad thing is when NREL did their scenarios for 80 to 90% reduction by 2050, WV, even in 2050, is still one of the few states still burning coal and getting little from solar/wind. There is a narrow strip that goes down the eastern part of the state that gets good numbers on wind planning maps too.
If i was that one guy who said the CEO of Massey (or whoever it was) kept trying to buy him out, I would let him, and be one of the first out to garner a good price for my land; then i would set up shop far, far away from that stuff.
I lived in Charleston most of my life. Within, say, a 20 mile strip around the area, there are four coal plants. They say breathing the air is like smoking a pack of cigarettes a day (or maybe that was before the clean air act; I can’t keep up on the details of the local lore). Two of those plants are privately owned by the chemical industry.
I remember about 22 years ago, I would tag along with my girlfriend to one of the local plants to pick up her father, who was a chemical engineer, after work. I forgot what plant it was – Monsanto sort of rings a bell – but when you got out of the car, the air stunk so bad it was as if you were at a skunk family reunion.
Could Hollywood possibly create a better coal company CEO caricature than Bob Murray?
Without going into excruciating detail about the PJM interconnect capacity market, Bob Murray lied about the price of electricity doubling. (Most of his lies are more obvious.)
‘The Foolish Old Man who Removed the Mountains’.
The U.S are not alone – this destruction of nature is being carried on in China too, without thought of any geoengineering consequences.
http://www.nature.com/news/environment-accelerate-research-on-land-creation-1.15327
Coal mining is very destructive indeed.
But if we’re doing videos, maybe we ought to watch this one (below) about clearcutting forests in Finland and Sweden. Apparently, this is being rapidly expanded to meet the growing need for “wood chips” in Germany, also known as “biomass,” also known as a form of “green power.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGvNJ-FnUE
I remember a time when environmentalists were vehemently opposed to clearcutting. Now, a significant number of them have no problem with this practice as long as the wood is destined to a good cause like producing green energy.
From the video caption:
Only under 5% of Finnish forests are old-growth forests. Many ecologically valuable forests lack protection and are being trashed for Finnish pulp and paper industry.
Please cite your source that making wood chips for Germany’s energiewende is ‘apparently’ driving deforestation of old growth forests in Finland. The caption doesn’t really get into what happens to the wood after logging except to say it’s for the Finnish pulp and paper industry.
Considering your source is Greenpeace may’be you’d like to comment on this foreign policy problem that the French civilian nuclear program has when dealing the source of it’s uranium in Niger (not to mention it’s need to militarily protect mines in interior North west Africa e.g. Mali and Niger and the recent military incursion in the region for that purpose
France protects Niger uranium mine
Niger has confirmed that French special forces are protecting one of the country’s biggest uranium mines.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-21318043 ).
Here’s another video from Greenpeace. It’s on the trouble with French uranium mining in Niger. (If it doesn’t embed here’s the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXNc1zygo)
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXNc1zygo&w=560&h=315]
For the future I’m going to have to remember to reread what I type since we can’t edit. Reading it back what I typed looks atrocious. Sorry all 🙁
A very disturbing video on WV mountaintop removal mining—-it makes my blood boil to see how the greedy rich are willing to sacrifice other people’s homes and the future of the state for profit. It is also sad to see so many of the residents clinging to the ever-declining number of coal jobs. It is akin to cannibalism when people must “devour” their health, water, and environment for short term gain—-does no one look to the future?
RE: Cy’s “wood chips”—-more of the same, a capitalist scam hiding behind “biomass” and “green power”—-NOT a “good cause” Perhaps somewhat better than digging up and burning fossil fuels, but not an answer unless a tree is immediately planted for every one cut, and the amount of CO2 will rise anyway until the replacement plantings can grow big enough to “soak it up” And that ignores the habitat destruction and forced extinction question.
I’ve heard some of those southern, heavy WV coal counties have something like a 15 or 20 year difference in life expectancy compared to counties right on their boarder, perhaps in VA; that is to say, if you’re a miner or live near all that junk, don’t worry about saving too much for retirement, and don’t buy any green bananas…
Chris Hamilton (W Virginia Coal Assoc): “Mining is something we do here in W Virginia…[and] there’s no pretty way to mine Coal…” Uhh, MINING was pretty. I mean, it was underground, in tunnels. Granted, it had some formidable Unions to deal with, but THIS is just blowing sh8t up… like Al Qaeda.
Hamilton: “to the extent that a Mountain is removed, a little bit of a misnomer there. We’re removing Mountain TOPS” [when asked how far they go down] “well, sometimes its to the ground level, but usually…”
This would be sooo much more acceptable, if Coal weren’t on its way to the hangman, anyway. It’s like “what do you want for your last supper?” And saying “Steak and Potatoes!” is the same as “to blow up the Louvre!”
The sad thing is when NREL did their scenarios for 80 to 90% reduction by 2050, WV, even in 2050, is still one of the few states still burning coal and getting little from solar/wind. There is a narrow strip that goes down the eastern part of the state that gets good numbers on wind planning maps too.
http://www.nrel.gov/analysis/re_futures/data_viewer/#
If i was that one guy who said the CEO of Massey (or whoever it was) kept trying to buy him out, I would let him, and be one of the first out to garner a good price for my land; then i would set up shop far, far away from that stuff.
I lived in Charleston most of my life. Within, say, a 20 mile strip around the area, there are four coal plants. They say breathing the air is like smoking a pack of cigarettes a day (or maybe that was before the clean air act; I can’t keep up on the details of the local lore). Two of those plants are privately owned by the chemical industry.
I remember about 22 years ago, I would tag along with my girlfriend to one of the local plants to pick up her father, who was a chemical engineer, after work. I forgot what plant it was – Monsanto sort of rings a bell – but when you got out of the car, the air stunk so bad it was as if you were at a skunk family reunion.
Could Hollywood possibly create a better coal company CEO caricature than Bob Murray?
Without going into excruciating detail about the PJM interconnect capacity market, Bob Murray lied about the price of electricity doubling. (Most of his lies are more obvious.)