Very cool, and wow!, what a lot of work. All those folks, spending all those hours in nasty and dangerous conditions, just to keep up their end of the global AGW conspiracy. Talk about spycraft!
Also, I want some Eamian ice for my glass of Scotch whiskey. (Don’t tell me it hasn’t been done)
Yes, both “cool” and beautiful. This is what NASA should be spending its resources on rather than manned space missions to the Moon and Mars—exploring the earth.
Awesome footage from NASA, amazing insight into the past ages, it seems so incredibly ancient, the Eemian interglacial period (130,000 – 115,000) years ago, but sobering to think that our ancestors (sapiens) and our good mates (neanderthals) were around at the time, not sure how far north they got. Not sure how people can believe we are only 10,000 years old, (especially in a modern country such as the U.S) there must be some strange teachers around.
Actually, many think Neanderthal man was in many ways superior to Homo Sapiens, at least in the sense of living in greater “harmony” with nature. Some also think that one of the reasons Neanderthal man became extinct is that “our” ancestors killed them and ate them.
You joke about your manager being a Neanderthal. That’s unkind to Neanderthals, and grows out of the Neanderthal’s primitive “cave man” appearance more than their behavior. Homo sapiens is far more “savage” and less worthy of approbation than Neanderthal.
And Neanderthal man is not extinct, in that a small but significant part of modern man’s genome comes from the Neanderthals, at least for non-Africans.
Re: your first remark, there is evidence that man lived on the fringes of the ice sheets and moved north and south with them as they advanced and retreated. Recall that man crossed the Bering land bridge from Asia to settle N and S America, and likely did that within sight of towering walls of ice.
And as for “…there must be some strange teachers around….”, what makes you think that many teachers will not represent the views of their community, particularly in those areas populated by bible-thumpers?. Do remember the Scopes “monkey trial”. The impact of a few “proper” science teachers in those communities is far outweighed by the brainwashing kids get from church, parents, teachers of non-science subjects, and the media.
Thanks for those words of wisdom, actually my ex-manager was a guitar strumming, charismatic person full of jokes and a ladies man to boot, and I have enjoyed many a pint of warm British ale in his company, so I don’t think I was too unkind, he just resembles a Neanderthal in stature and facial features. I have a healthy respect for our long lost cousins, and it amuses me that you seem to have similar opinions on managers to me, although in these more enlightened times less formal and hierarchical structures, with more empowered teams – should diminish the old tyrant.
Of interest is a 2011 finding of a last Neanderthal stand near the Arctic:
Neanderthals Made a Last Stand at Subarctic Outpost?
“Tool kit” may put Neanderthals in northern Russia—surviving later than thought.
I didn’t mean to imply that you were being unkind to your manager but rather to Neanderthals. I’m glad to hear that it was just his looks you were referring to and not his behavior, although your use of “tyrant” makes me wonder.. The only thing that really matters is whether he was a good manager or not (although in this “modern” world, looking like a movie star seems to be an important attribute for “managers” and “leaders”).
You are “amused” by my attitudes towards “managers”? I spent over 20 years of my professional career as a “manager”, and was a good one who was universally loved by those I “managed”—-just ask them and they’ll tell you (except for the small minority who often had my size 12 planted on their backsides and my hot breath on the back of their necks).
I came up during the time when individual and group dynamics, organization development, and communication skills were the “latest thing” for “managers”, and long before the newer “power of positive thinking” and “personal empowerment” BS came along. We were focused on getting the job done back then, and had truly “empowered teams” rather than bright-sidedness and feel-good games. My antipathy was towards those above me in the structure, many of whom got their jobs because of who they knew and effects of The Peter Principle. All too many of them were REMF’s of the worst sort, and I had many battles with them, all of which I both won (factually and intellectually as evidenced by changes in the system) and lost (in terms of damaging my future prospects for promotion).
And I have just finished a good novel titled “Syndrome E” that is built around the premise that a gene mutation in Cro-Magnon man caused him to slaughter Neanderthals, and ultimately contribute to their extinction (and that’s ignoring the fact that many seem to have eaten them as well). A real page turner—-translated from the French.
A neat link. A nice little piece of evidence, nicely studied and interpreted. And It may have been uncovered because of the wacky winter weather in the UK caused by AGW, and may soon be destroyed by same—-some small irony there if so.
(And if it had been discovered by the creationists, it would have been rejected because of both its age and the fact that there were no dinosaur footprints mixed in with the humans)
You must mean Rush Limbaugh? If so, I agree. This presentation shows good science and good graphic work, while Limbaugh is simply a waste of good chemicals that could be better spent fertilizing someone’s garden.
Very cool, and wow!, what a lot of work. All those folks, spending all those hours in nasty and dangerous conditions, just to keep up their end of the global AGW conspiracy. Talk about spycraft!
Also, I want some Eamian ice for my glass of Scotch whiskey. (Don’t tell me it hasn’t been done)
we’ve celebrated dark snow missions with some very, very, old ice.
Beautiful! This is excellent – and a must-add for my climate course video material.
Yes, both “cool” and beautiful. This is what NASA should be spending its resources on rather than manned space missions to the Moon and Mars—exploring the earth.
Awesome footage from NASA, amazing insight into the past ages, it seems so incredibly ancient, the Eemian interglacial period (130,000 – 115,000) years ago, but sobering to think that our ancestors (sapiens) and our good mates (neanderthals) were around at the time, not sure how far north they got. Not sure how people can believe we are only 10,000 years old, (especially in a modern country such as the U.S) there must be some strange teachers around.
Not so sure the neanderthals are extinct – sure one of my managers was one —
Study: Too many Americans don’t believe in evolution or man-made climate change
http://www.salon.com/2015/01/29/study_too_many_americans_dont_believe_in_evolution_and_man_made_climate_change/
Actually, many think Neanderthal man was in many ways superior to Homo Sapiens, at least in the sense of living in greater “harmony” with nature. Some also think that one of the reasons Neanderthal man became extinct is that “our” ancestors killed them and ate them.
You joke about your manager being a Neanderthal. That’s unkind to Neanderthals, and grows out of the Neanderthal’s primitive “cave man” appearance more than their behavior. Homo sapiens is far more “savage” and less worthy of approbation than Neanderthal.
And Neanderthal man is not extinct, in that a small but significant part of modern man’s genome comes from the Neanderthals, at least for non-Africans.
Re: your first remark, there is evidence that man lived on the fringes of the ice sheets and moved north and south with them as they advanced and retreated. Recall that man crossed the Bering land bridge from Asia to settle N and S America, and likely did that within sight of towering walls of ice.
And as for “…there must be some strange teachers around….”, what makes you think that many teachers will not represent the views of their community, particularly in those areas populated by bible-thumpers?. Do remember the Scopes “monkey trial”. The impact of a few “proper” science teachers in those communities is far outweighed by the brainwashing kids get from church, parents, teachers of non-science subjects, and the media.
Thanks for those words of wisdom, actually my ex-manager was a guitar strumming, charismatic person full of jokes and a ladies man to boot, and I have enjoyed many a pint of warm British ale in his company, so I don’t think I was too unkind, he just resembles a Neanderthal in stature and facial features. I have a healthy respect for our long lost cousins, and it amuses me that you seem to have similar opinions on managers to me, although in these more enlightened times less formal and hierarchical structures, with more empowered teams – should diminish the old tyrant.
Of interest is a 2011 finding of a last Neanderthal stand near the Arctic:
Neanderthals Made a Last Stand at Subarctic Outpost?
“Tool kit” may put Neanderthals in northern Russia—surviving later than thought.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/05/110513-neanderthals-last-stand-science-tool-kit-russia-slimak-tools/
I didn’t mean to imply that you were being unkind to your manager but rather to Neanderthals. I’m glad to hear that it was just his looks you were referring to and not his behavior, although your use of “tyrant” makes me wonder.. The only thing that really matters is whether he was a good manager or not (although in this “modern” world, looking like a movie star seems to be an important attribute for “managers” and “leaders”).
You are “amused” by my attitudes towards “managers”? I spent over 20 years of my professional career as a “manager”, and was a good one who was universally loved by those I “managed”—-just ask them and they’ll tell you (except for the small minority who often had my size 12 planted on their backsides and my hot breath on the back of their necks).
I came up during the time when individual and group dynamics, organization development, and communication skills were the “latest thing” for “managers”, and long before the newer “power of positive thinking” and “personal empowerment” BS came along. We were focused on getting the job done back then, and had truly “empowered teams” rather than bright-sidedness and feel-good games. My antipathy was towards those above me in the structure, many of whom got their jobs because of who they knew and effects of The Peter Principle. All too many of them were REMF’s of the worst sort, and I had many battles with them, all of which I both won (factually and intellectually as evidenced by changes in the system) and lost (in terms of damaging my future prospects for promotion).
And I have just finished a good novel titled “Syndrome E” that is built around the premise that a gene mutation in Cro-Magnon man caused him to slaughter Neanderthals, and ultimately contribute to their extinction (and that’s ignoring the fact that many seem to have eaten them as well). A real page turner—-translated from the French.
Well, humans lived as far north as the UK at least 800K years ago. Last year ancient human footprints were discovered on a beach in England. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/02/140207-ancient-human-footprints-outside-africa-england-anthropology-science/
A neat link. A nice little piece of evidence, nicely studied and interpreted. And It may have been uncovered because of the wacky winter weather in the UK caused by AGW, and may soon be destroyed by same—-some small irony there if so.
(And if it had been discovered by the creationists, it would have been rejected because of both its age and the fact that there were no dinosaur footprints mixed in with the humans)
Quite a contrast between this presentation and the rantings of the Blowhard in Chief.
“….rantings of the Blowhard in Chief….”???
You must mean Rush Limbaugh? If so, I agree. This presentation shows good science and good graphic work, while Limbaugh is simply a waste of good chemicals that could be better spent fertilizing someone’s garden.