This company says they can make liquid fuels for $1.27/US gallon using algae. Hackers are going to town on their computers, perhaps in hopes of stealing the technology.
Didn’t know how relevant that was to your profession – trying to secure systems from exogenous threats – but it may be of some interest…
jsam – your comment is the pinnacle of cretinhood around here. My comment had zero to do with “denialism”. Too bad you’re just confirming how fundamentally insane it is to go around trying to hate somebody.
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So why do you do it?
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What is this supposed to mean? You are the one who believes there is a problem as big as an existential threat to humanity and the planet. And you are the one who believes a ‘solution’ can be found by hating this or that character…an obviously meaningless position, as no amount of hate will solve anything.
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Now I understand.
The crazy person follows mainstream science to its logical conclusion is disconcerted. And thinks media moguls who disparage the science are dangerous.
The sane person has faith that the science just isn’t happening and looks for conspiracy theories in media companies.
I’m just stepping outside to see what colour sky it is today. Rather than go on a diet may I also have my own gravitational constant, please?
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So, maybe we should blame all the people who listen to mis-informed messages, or deluded fantasies, and act according to magical thinking imposed by cultural cues.. …oops.. that’s everybody.
Yes, he is. The current Abbott/Murdoch regime in Australia was made possible by a compliant media that refused to scrutinise the lunatic right wing, and relentlessly attacked the left. It is still happening now, though perhaps not as bad as the lead up to the election, and the three years before that.
In Australia, we do not really have any effective competition to Murdoch’s propaganda sheets. I think people generally underestimate the power Murdoch has in influencing the public narrative – the ‘water cooler conversations’ in the office and lunch rooms. It got so bad last year that you simply could not speak positively of Left/Green politics in public without real risk of jeers and ridicule. Murdoch media made sure that everyone was armed with suitable zingers and slogans.
Rupert Murdoch owns 175 newspapers, in 2003, all 175 ‘independent’ editors wrote articles supporting the invasion of Iraq.
Murdoch was on the board of Phillip Morris for 12 years.
And I get sick of hearing about how climate scientists need to communicate better, or do something differently. NO – it doesn’t matter what they say, when it is filtered by Murdoch there’s not much they can do.
Don’t tell anyone, but Rupert Murdoch will be working out of NewsCorp HQ, 2 Holt St, Surry Hills in Sydney, July 14-17. Do NOT Protest 🙂
The revolution will not be televised, and will not be in the newspapers either.
“News Limited newspapers savaged Whitlam and strongly backed opposition leader Malcolm Fraser, so much so that journalists at The Australian took industrial action in protest. ”
In those days Journalists and commentators were not so brainwashed or venal and had Self Respect, Integrity, Honour and Dignity. So much has changed, now so many are just bought and paid for shills happily selling out our Nation and the Australian Public and the public has gradually been programmed and conditioned to discard those very essential personal and social attributes
“Mr Menadue, who was head of the prime minister’s department from 1974-76, said Mr Murdoch’s “modus operandi was more cautious, more subtle in those days, but I wouldn’t dismiss it … he’s certainly more blatant now … more extreme right wing.” ”
Note in the UK Cameron’s (The Prime Minister) ex minders – sorry “media advisors” were forced to resign, doing a great job under his master isn’t he.
The very individual the UK determined was not a fit person, yet he has control over the perceptions and beliefs of the Australian People along with the shock jocks.
The truism has not been more clearly demonstrated, the pen is mightier than the sword, in the modern case include the talking head.
Who on the conservative side of voters has their own thoughts or beliefs rather than programmed and conditioned sets
Is Murdoch a young Earth creationist? I notice he states that the world has always been changing then he states later “The world has been changing for 1000s and 1000s of years”
Rupert has a nice country estate near Yass where the front paddock is full of Ordovician graptolites and brachiopods. We didn’t know whose place it was when some fellow students and I dropped in for permission to fossick, and found him at home, apparently alone, reading by the fireside (this was about 25 years back; no names were mentioned, but I eventually remembered where I’d seen the face). He seemed to know quite a bit about the fossils in the neighbourhood and was happy for us to crack some outcrop. The exact dates of the Ordovician didn’t come up, though.
“Warming, worst case, 3 C in a hundred years, at the very most 1C of that is man made”
Its a statement that conflicts with reality, but conforms to the inner political/economic reality that conservatives inhabit, in which the growth of human civilization trumps all other considerations. In essence, God needs human civilization to grow unimpeded, and hence, CC must be natural.
‘What’s good for Rupert Murdoch is good for God’ is certainly a philosophy that’s served Murdoch well, so far. And he sees others like him who Need the atmosphere to be a dumping ground. Hence, CC must be natural.
Exploring this further, I think the conservative ethic is, at heart, the hardwired idea that ‘I don’t have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you’. So, it divides the world into ‘us’ (you/me) and ‘not us’ (the bear). This has survival potential: all of life is just a race imposed by the ‘other’ (who knows why), in which the sole objective is to beat the other human beings in the race. Win at sports. Win at mating. Die with the most toys. etc. Why does this have survival potential? It drastically shrinks the horizon one must worry about (‘we’ are racing, ‘they’ are chasing us, ‘we’ don’t need to worry about ‘they’, ‘we’ just need to outrun each other). By virtue of this ‘surface’ imposed between ‘us’ and ‘them’, ones willpower is profoundly empowered. The willpower center (prefrontal cortex) needn’t worry, anymore, about ‘them’: ‘we’ are all it recognizes: all of life comes down to ‘who is winning’. And religion? ‘Our’ religion see’s God’s universe as a unlimited sequence of ‘tests’ imposed by God’s ‘them’, the other outside our ‘we’-ness, our tribe or country.
Admit it: most Liberals are wired to ask if some human pissed off the bear: perhaps we’re running because of ‘blowback’. To a conservative that’s just a DRAINING question to consider. ‘They’ are ‘they’, ‘we’ are ‘we’, and all my willpower need consider is what it takes to beat you at the race. So quit asking irritating, draining questions.
It’s all there, in Murdoch’s quaint, earnest DESIRE, to have everything he is saying BE true. I count NINE claims about CC he counters with wishful conservatism, and he is 0 for 9: a perfect record. But he’s a perfect competitor. To such, there HAS to be a starting block, and a finish line, and all he has to do is beat the other competitors. And any obstacle thrown in the way HAS to be natural: part of God’s omnipotent challenge. It HAS to. It’s just too draining a question, to consider otherwise, to consider the concept of blowback: that our actions sometimes reinforce the challenges we face. That sometimes, we are so obsessed with Al-Qaeda being connected, somehow, with Iraq, that we create, perversely, Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq.
I don’t see how he’s any worse than politicians like Abbott or Inhofe, shills like Hearthland or any the “skeptic” scientists that back the denialists point of view.
Even if Murdoch absolutely knows he’s lying, he’s NOT a public servant.
Abbott & Inhofe were elected to serve the best interests of the people.
He is a media mogul. A master of language and propaganda. He makes it seem OK to be a denier. He makes it almost ‘normal’ to hate wind turbines. He is the enabler who frames his stories in ways that help his right wing causes.
People like Murdoch make the unelectable, electable. That’s why he is MUCH worse than Abbott of Inhofe.
An objective media is VITAL to a functional democracy. Voters must be fairly informed to vote in a responsible manner. The complete devolution in the past 50 years, much of it traced to Murdoch’s front door, of turning the media from information reportage to propaganda disbursement and distraction from our true issues is a BIG reason why government is a total mess these days.
(Just a little thing: Howard Dean is full of k-rap at 11:33. The sad thing is that people like to be lied to if they want to believe the lie in the first place.)
This is the micro managing company owner who had no idea that the fantastic inside stories his paper was printing came from bugging peoples phones. He is also the owner of a multinational organisation with thousands of accountants who had no idea that millions of pounds was being spent on illegal payments to police and government officials.
There’s got to be a more mature strategy than running around trying to identify Bad People hating whom somehow will bring salvation
Right, there’s always trolling on climate blogs.
Off topic:
Found something you might like omno:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/why-were-this-companys-computers-attacked-millions-of-times-this-year-algae/2014/07/10/ac4df98c-f59a-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html
This company says they can make liquid fuels for $1.27/US gallon using algae. Hackers are going to town on their computers, perhaps in hopes of stealing the technology.
Didn’t know how relevant that was to your profession – trying to secure systems from exogenous threats – but it may be of some interest…
Great to hear you guys are ceasing your personal attacks on Mann, Hansen, Trenbreth etc.
Thank you for taking the lead.
Also this °you guys° idea is extremely naive and counterproductive. Maybe climate alarmism is a kindergarten thingy.
Hey, it’s not more naive and counter-productive than your opening comment. Climate denialism is a an intellectual nappy rash thing.
jsam – your comment is the pinnacle of cretinhood around here. My comment had zero to do with “denialism”. Too bad you’re just confirming how fundamentally insane it is to go around trying to hate somebody.
So why do you do it?
What is this supposed to mean? You are the one who believes there is a problem as big as an existential threat to humanity and the planet. And you are the one who believes a ‘solution’ can be found by hating this or that character…an obviously meaningless position, as no amount of hate will solve anything.
Now I understand.
The crazy person follows mainstream science to its logical conclusion is disconcerted. And thinks media moguls who disparage the science are dangerous.
The sane person has faith that the science just isn’t happening and looks for conspiracy theories in media companies.
I’m just stepping outside to see what colour sky it is today. Rather than go on a diet may I also have my own gravitational constant, please?
So, maybe we should blame all the people who listen to mis-informed messages, or deluded fantasies, and act according to magical thinking imposed by cultural cues.. …oops.. that’s everybody.
Yes, he is. The current Abbott/Murdoch regime in Australia was made possible by a compliant media that refused to scrutinise the lunatic right wing, and relentlessly attacked the left. It is still happening now, though perhaps not as bad as the lead up to the election, and the three years before that.
In Australia, we do not really have any effective competition to Murdoch’s propaganda sheets. I think people generally underestimate the power Murdoch has in influencing the public narrative – the ‘water cooler conversations’ in the office and lunch rooms. It got so bad last year that you simply could not speak positively of Left/Green politics in public without real risk of jeers and ridicule. Murdoch media made sure that everyone was armed with suitable zingers and slogans.
Rupert Murdoch owns 175 newspapers, in 2003, all 175 ‘independent’ editors wrote articles supporting the invasion of Iraq.
Murdoch was on the board of Phillip Morris for 12 years.
And I get sick of hearing about how climate scientists need to communicate better, or do something differently. NO – it doesn’t matter what they say, when it is filtered by Murdoch there’s not much they can do.
Don’t tell anyone, but Rupert Murdoch will be working out of NewsCorp HQ, 2 Holt St, Surry Hills in Sydney, July 14-17. Do NOT Protest 🙂
The revolution will not be televised, and will not be in the newspapers either.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/murdoch-editors-told-to-kill-whitlam-in-1975-20140627-zson7.html?google_editors_picks=true
“News Limited newspapers savaged Whitlam and strongly backed opposition leader Malcolm Fraser, so much so that journalists at The Australian took industrial action in protest. ”
In those days Journalists and commentators were not so brainwashed or venal and had Self Respect, Integrity, Honour and Dignity. So much has changed, now so many are just bought and paid for shills happily selling out our Nation and the Australian Public and the public has gradually been programmed and conditioned to discard those very essential personal and social attributes
“Mr Menadue, who was head of the prime minister’s department from 1974-76, said Mr Murdoch’s “modus operandi was more cautious, more subtle in those days, but I wouldn’t dismiss it … he’s certainly more blatant now … more extreme right wing.” ”
You may then wish to consider the implications of
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/murdoch-sends-trusted-general-col-pot-to-bring-down-rudd-over-nbn-20130803-2r6fk.html
http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/revealed-the-media-conspiracy-against-the-government/
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/20/bernstein-murdoch-ailes-petreaus-presidency
http://theconversation.com/murdoch-and-his-influence-on-australian-political-life-16752
Note Ruperts father was one of the founders of the IPA and Rupert is a Director
http://ipa.org.au/publications/2080/be-like-gough-75-radical-ideas-to-transform-australia
http://www.watoday.com.au/comment/this-coalition-ad-is-brought-to-you-by–20130802-2r4iq.html
Let us not forget
Rupert Murdoch – Oilman
http://www.independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/rupert-murdoch-oil-man,4124
And the source
Do also read the Part 1 on Milt Romney
http://nomadicpolitics.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/on-environment-romney-and-hannity-share_12.html
Note in the UK Cameron’s (The Prime Minister) ex minders – sorry “media advisors” were forced to resign, doing a great job under his master isn’t he.
The very individual the UK determined was not a fit person, yet he has control over the perceptions and beliefs of the Australian People along with the shock jocks.
The truism has not been more clearly demonstrated, the pen is mightier than the sword, in the modern case include the talking head.
Who on the conservative side of voters has their own thoughts or beliefs rather than programmed and conditioned sets
Is Murdoch a young Earth creationist? I notice he states that the world has always been changing then he states later “The world has been changing for 1000s and 1000s of years”
Rupert has a nice country estate near Yass where the front paddock is full of Ordovician graptolites and brachiopods. We didn’t know whose place it was when some fellow students and I dropped in for permission to fossick, and found him at home, apparently alone, reading by the fireside (this was about 25 years back; no names were mentioned, but I eventually remembered where I’d seen the face). He seemed to know quite a bit about the fossils in the neighbourhood and was happy for us to crack some outcrop. The exact dates of the Ordovician didn’t come up, though.
“Warming, worst case, 3 C in a hundred years, at the very most 1C of that is man made”
Its a statement that conflicts with reality, but conforms to the inner political/economic reality that conservatives inhabit, in which the growth of human civilization trumps all other considerations. In essence, God needs human civilization to grow unimpeded, and hence, CC must be natural.
‘What’s good for Rupert Murdoch is good for God’ is certainly a philosophy that’s served Murdoch well, so far. And he sees others like him who Need the atmosphere to be a dumping ground. Hence, CC must be natural.
Exploring this further, I think the conservative ethic is, at heart, the hardwired idea that ‘I don’t have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you’. So, it divides the world into ‘us’ (you/me) and ‘not us’ (the bear). This has survival potential: all of life is just a race imposed by the ‘other’ (who knows why), in which the sole objective is to beat the other human beings in the race. Win at sports. Win at mating. Die with the most toys. etc. Why does this have survival potential? It drastically shrinks the horizon one must worry about (‘we’ are racing, ‘they’ are chasing us, ‘we’ don’t need to worry about ‘they’, ‘we’ just need to outrun each other). By virtue of this ‘surface’ imposed between ‘us’ and ‘them’, ones willpower is profoundly empowered. The willpower center (prefrontal cortex) needn’t worry, anymore, about ‘them’: ‘we’ are all it recognizes: all of life comes down to ‘who is winning’. And religion? ‘Our’ religion see’s God’s universe as a unlimited sequence of ‘tests’ imposed by God’s ‘them’, the other outside our ‘we’-ness, our tribe or country.
Admit it: most Liberals are wired to ask if some human pissed off the bear: perhaps we’re running because of ‘blowback’. To a conservative that’s just a DRAINING question to consider. ‘They’ are ‘they’, ‘we’ are ‘we’, and all my willpower need consider is what it takes to beat you at the race. So quit asking irritating, draining questions.
It’s all there, in Murdoch’s quaint, earnest DESIRE, to have everything he is saying BE true. I count NINE claims about CC he counters with wishful conservatism, and he is 0 for 9: a perfect record. But he’s a perfect competitor. To such, there HAS to be a starting block, and a finish line, and all he has to do is beat the other competitors. And any obstacle thrown in the way HAS to be natural: part of God’s omnipotent challenge. It HAS to. It’s just too draining a question, to consider otherwise, to consider the concept of blowback: that our actions sometimes reinforce the challenges we face. That sometimes, we are so obsessed with Al-Qaeda being connected, somehow, with Iraq, that we create, perversely, Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq.
I don’t see how he’s any worse than politicians like Abbott or Inhofe, shills like Hearthland or any the “skeptic” scientists that back the denialists point of view.
Even if Murdoch absolutely knows he’s lying, he’s NOT a public servant.
Abbott & Inhofe were elected to serve the best interests of the people.
He is a media mogul. A master of language and propaganda. He makes it seem OK to be a denier. He makes it almost ‘normal’ to hate wind turbines. He is the enabler who frames his stories in ways that help his right wing causes.
People like Murdoch make the unelectable, electable. That’s why he is MUCH worse than Abbott of Inhofe.
“Is Rupert Murdoch History’s Greatest Criminal?”
YES
More questions:
1. Did Rupert Murdoch get Tony Abbot elected?
2. Does Tony Abbot work for Murdoch?
Am not sure of the first. But the second is highly likely.
He’s definitely up there. A more precise question would be, “Is Rupert Murdoch the most damaging influence in media in the past 100 years?”
I recommend the film ‘Outfoxed’ for some more background on Murdoch and his influence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2i_HH54BPk#t=63
It’s on Netflix, and here’s the website:
http://www.bravenewfilms.org/outfoxed
An objective media is VITAL to a functional democracy. Voters must be fairly informed to vote in a responsible manner. The complete devolution in the past 50 years, much of it traced to Murdoch’s front door, of turning the media from information reportage to propaganda disbursement and distraction from our true issues is a BIG reason why government is a total mess these days.
(Just a little thing: Howard Dean is full of k-rap at 11:33. The sad thing is that people like to be lied to if they want to believe the lie in the first place.)
Rupert is conveniently ignoring reality, as he is wont to do.
This is the micro managing company owner who had no idea that the fantastic inside stories his paper was printing came from bugging peoples phones. He is also the owner of a multinational organisation with thousands of accountants who had no idea that millions of pounds was being spent on illegal payments to police and government officials.